Trump's being called a 'fascist.' What does that mean?

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Former President Donald Trump has precocious been called a "fascist" by his erstwhile main of staff, John Kelly, his opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, and starring historiographer Robert Paxton.

Kelly, a erstwhile four-star Marine wide and erstwhile main of unit to Trump, hammered his aged leader arsenic a "fascist" in a New York Times interview.

"Well, looking astatine nan meaning of fascism: It's a far-right authoritarian, ultranationalist governmental ideology and activity characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief successful a earthy societal hierarchy," Kelly told The Times.

"So, certainly, successful my experience, those are nan kinds of things that he thinks would activity amended successful position of moving America," he added.

But for scholars who've agelong studied fascism, defining fascism isn't truthful simple.

"We're not conscionable debating whether aliases not Trump fits that definition; we are not agreeing connected what that meaning is," Sheri Berman, a governmental subject professor astatine Barnard College, Columbia University, told ABC News successful an interview.

There is nary scholarly statement connected nan term, according to some Berman and Mark Bray, a governmental intelligence from Rutgers University. This is, successful part, because fascists historically person not been tied to "rational consistency," Bray said, pointing to Italian dictator Benito Mussolini and Nazi Germany dictator Adolf Hitler whose argumentation positions changed connected a assortment of occasions.

To Berman, fascists are totalitarian pinch nan extremity of not conscionable controlling politics, but reshaping nine and controlling nan economy.

"These were inherently convulsive movements," Berman said. "They didn't conscionable usage unit arsenic a intends correct to conquer powerfulness aliases to spell retired and conquer different parts of nan world, but they believed unit is an extremity successful and of itself. It had this benignant of cleansing and empowering facet that would again lend to benignant of changing society, changing nan individuals that constitute society."

Fascism, according to Bray, is rooted successful nan desire "to return to an imaginary past wherever earthy hierarchies were respected, hierarchies astir nationalism aliases gender aliases race, and it intends to usage wide celebrated authorities to get location pinch a attraction connected violence" to free nine connected its undesirable elements.

Among historians and governmental scientists, it's a toss-up arsenic to whether they judge Trump afloat fits nan bill.

In a New York Times interview published connected Oct. 23, Paxton said nan Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection eliminated his reservations astir calling Trump a fascist.

However, he said focusing connected nan leader of a activity and not nan wide from which it has flourished is simply a mistake.

“The Trump arena looks for illustration it has a overmuch much coagulated societal base," arsenic Hitler and Mussolini were appointed and not elected officials, Paxton told The Times. “Which neither Hitler nor Mussolini would person had.”

Bray believes there's a favoritism betwixt Trump and "Trumpism" arsenic a governmental activity and nan similarities to fascism.

"I would telephone Trumpism unequivocally a benignant of 21st period American fascism," said Bray, arguing that Trump's astir ardent fans whitethorn spot themselves arsenic "victims who request to transcend nan limit of antiauthoritarian authorities ... [using] redemptive unit to return their state aliases their federation aliases their nine back."

Bray believes Trump's narration pinch his supporters has radically affected his policy: "I deliberation that those initiatives are coming stronger and are much heartfelt from nan guidelines of Trumpism astatine nan authorities level, astatine nan region level."

Bray stops short of calling Trump a fascist successful nan accepted sense, seeing arsenic he does not clasp each of nan ideals of a humanities fascist. For example, fascists person historically rejected free marketplace capitalism, dissimilar Trump.

Instead, Bray calls Trump "fascistic" -- "I deliberation nan word fascist suggests that he's much of an ideologue of this than I deliberation he really is," Bray said.

Berman does not pin Trump arsenic a fascist, calling him alternatively an "anti-democratic" and "authoritarian." However, she added that this does not mean his encouragement of unit -- for illustration his comments connected utilizing National Guard troops to spell aft "radical near lunatics" aliases nativist rhetoric and plans to deport millions of undocumented immigrants -- does not align pinch fascist tendencies.

The ongoing statement besides questions whether it's adjuvant to usage nan word erstwhile discussing Trump and modern politics.

Berman argues that position should "help you understand nan arena that is being described," and nan disorder and mystification astir nan word has only clouded its impact.

"The logic why I for illustration to accent his benignant of anti-democratic and illiberal aspects is ... it gives citizens thing very actual to attraction on," Berman said, pointing to Trump's circumstantial policies and plans. "It helps them understand what nan threat is erstwhile you spot personification arsenic a fascist."

Paxton agreed pinch this sentiment successful his question and reply pinch nan NYT, arguing that nan overuse cheapens nan meaning -- "I deliberation location are ways of being much definitive astir nan circumstantial threat Trump represents," he said.

In an Oct. 23 municipality hallway connected CNN, Harris called Trump a “fascist,” and said Kelly’s criticisms of him are an effort to put retired a “911 telephone to nan American people."

Later successful nan municipality hall, Harris outright called Trump a “fascist” while answering a mobility connected Palestinian civilians being killed successful Gaza, (which Harris called “unconscionable”) and voters choosing to enactment location aliases protestation ballot complete nan war, arguing that galore are not single-issue voters.

“But I besides do cognize that for galore group who attraction astir this issue, they besides attraction astir bringing down nan value of groceries,” Harris argued. “They besides attraction astir our populist and not having a president of nan United States who admires dictators and is simply a fascist."

On Truth Social, Trump slammed Harris for her comments, alternatively calling Harris a "threat to democracy. However, he falsely claimed she referred to him arsenic Hitler.

"Comrade Kamala Harris sees that she is losing, and losing badly, particularly aft stealing nan Race from Crooked Joe Biden, truthful now she is progressively raising her rhetoric, going truthful acold arsenic to telephone maine Adolf Hitler, and thing other that comes to her warped mind," said Trump. "She is simply a Threat to Democracy, and not fresh to beryllium President of nan United States — And her Polling truthful indicates!"

ABC News has reached retired to nan Trump run for further comment.

ABC News' Soo Rin Kim contributed to this report.

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